18 October 2010

Islam

DISCLAIMER: I have a ton of reading to do before I can even claim to be decently informed about Islam. This post is just a beginning.

I know that there are Muslim people that were NOT joyful at the sights and sounds of 9/11. I know that there are those who think the extremists are wrong. I know that there are some that do not agree that all infidels must be either converted or killed. Why won't they speak? Because THEY will be killed.

I read this series of books, about a princess in Saudi Arabia, told in her own words to the author. The horrible way that women are treated under Shari'ah (spelling?) Law is criminal, at least to this Semi Privileged White Girl who grew up in America. Men are everything, women are nothing. There is an anecdote in one of the books - Sultana had a couple of friends who were sneaking off to meet men. Not for sex, they didn't go that far, but for the 'sin' of being alone with men they weren't related to, one of the girls was drowned by her own father. The other was bricked into a room and no one was allowed to talk to her ever again.

Christianity has grown and shifted and expanded as the culture has changed. Islam has not changed since the beginning, at least not in any appreciable way - in fact, REFUSES to change. The Koran, which I have not personally read, so see again the disclaimer at the top, tells true believers of Islam that all unbelievers shall be either converted or killed. I found the following quotes here.

"The Prophet said: 'I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.'"

"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

"Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."


They obviously haven't gotten the memo regarding the fact that this is the 21st century. Many Muslims, including those in power, have seen and been exposed to Western ways and thoughts, and still return to hardcore Islam. So it can't be said that ignorance of other ways is all it is. Is it fear? Is it determination to stay in charge? Is it simply hate? Lots of people claim that Islam is, in fact, a peaceful religion. I believe that there are those Muslims who ARE peaceful, but they seem to be rather few and far between.

So far, everything I've read and everything I've seen in the news tells me that they are out to take over the world. Not in some goofy "Pinky & The Brain" style insanity, but really and truly take over. Many areas of the world have Muslim "enclaves" where Shari'ah Law rules. They have fought and argued for the right to have these enclaves to themselves, where Western society is expunged, disallowed, and kept out. Here is an article from 2008, which states that it is already happening here in the US. It's also happening in various parts of Europe - the Netherlands have been in the news several times, as has France.

And we have done it to ourselves. Diversity is wonderful and allowing people to live the way they wish is one of the best things about the world now. However, this diversity is also a back door for these Muslims to easily slide through and begin to take over. How do we stop it? And is it already too late to do so?

Gotta hit the library this week to get more info. This isn't the last from me on this subject. Later.

5 comments:

  1. Christianity hasn't changed. People have tried to change Christianity. The teachings of Christ are the same, people have just twisted, warped & perverted them to mean what they want them to mean.

    I've been learning a lot about Islam, mostly from former Muslims. You should check out Walid Shoebat(http://www.shoebat.com/blog/) and Daniel Shayesteh (http://www.escapefromdarkness.org/).

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  2. Please do not "quote" blurbs from religious texts of any religion without reading the text quoted from.
    Every example you sited can and has been mirrored by radical Old Testament fundies, just as these lines are used by Muslim radicals.

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  3. Lani - thanks for the links, I will check them out. As for what I said about Christianity changing, I meant things like women being more accepted, other religions being accepted, things like that.

    D - this is why I put up the disclaimer. And the "Muslim radicals" seem to be the majority.

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  4. I have read the Koran, and it is one disturbing book. You are wise to be concerned.

    Also, I do not think it is possible to make those quotes out of context. In what possible context would those words be considered anything but sociopathic (in a civilized world, that is)?

    I think I have mentioned this to you before, Nat, but when you get a chance, add Ayaan Hirsi Ali to your reading list. She's amazing, principled, courageous, and well worth the read.

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